From eric at zhevny.com Sun Feb 10 15:11:45 2008 From: eric at zhevny.com (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:11:45 -0600 Subject: [lac-streams] test Message-ID: <20080210211145.GX27075@zhevny.com> test -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From eric at zhevny.com Sun Feb 10 17:52:41 2008 From: eric at zhevny.com (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:52:41 -0600 Subject: [lac-streams] LAC streamteam wiki In-Reply-To: <47AF840A.40605@gareus.org> References: <20080210222133.GA27075@zhevny.com> <47AF840A.40605@gareus.org> Message-ID: <20080210235241.GB27075@zhevny.com> On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 12:08:58AM +0100, Robin Gareus wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: > > Hello Robin, > > I'm helping again this year to run the live streams at LAC in Cologne. > > We're trying to recruit a team this year so that J???rn and I don't have > > to do everything ourselves. I'm looking for a place to have a wiki for > > collecting information and organizing volunteers. > > Would it be possible to get something set up on linuxaudio.org? > sure, no problem. > > lac.linuxaudio.org is a wordpress managed by Frank Barknecht & Martin > Martin Rumori - it seems to be the place for organizing volunteers.. > (CC Frank) > > I'm not exactly sure what you are after. maybe this wordpress is good > enough for your purpose. I think it has a different purpose from what I'm after. The wordpress site is the official face of the conference. I'm just looking for a scratch space to use for stuff like: keeping the streamteam volunteers coordinated as to what we are doing and when; who has agreed to work which talks; up-to date and easily editable documentation of the hardware and software set up; TODO lists; meeting notes; etc. What I want is not meant to be something for the general public, but for internal team management. > lad.linuxaudio.org has a long outstanding ToDo: organize previous LAC > recordings into a CMS. - no progress there. IMHO we should just start > and organize this years LAC recordings in a wiki - I'd lean towards > using dokuwiki and could set one up the next days. Yes, it's true, the past conference recordings have long needed some attention, but that is not something I have time to be concerned about at the moment. Though, I do hope to spend some time on it after LAC2008. (of course I've said that every year, so we'll see ... ) I'm not partial to any particular wiki. Any organization of this year's talks will be better than what we've had in the past. All the better if we can make it easier for people to contribute efforts. But, again, my main concern right now is a space to collect information for organizing team members for the production of the conference streams. > We should check with Martin & Frank how they organize the presentation > PDFs and Proceedings (openconf might be an option, too). The talks schedule is here: http://lac.linuxaudio.org/?page_id=21 This is again not the immediate concern I'm asking about, but good to discuss anyway. I would like to get the metadata out of the conference management system to put into the streams and for tagging the files. > As for streaming: There's an icecast2 at http://radio.linuxaudio.org/ > waiting to be fed. password: lao ; relay-passwd: laorelay > ..or we might be able to arrange a DNS eg. live.lac.linuxaudio.org to > your streaming server in Cologne. I need to check with Daniel how fast > this could happen. This won't be needed as we have use of a gigabit uplink in Cologne which we've been asked to use as much as possible. So, no need to bother Daniel and no need for relays this year. Thanks Robin. -Eric Rz. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From eric at zhevny.com Sun Feb 10 17:55:26 2008 From: eric at zhevny.com (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:55:26 -0600 Subject: [lac-streams] LAC 2008: bandwidth to burn and volunteers needed Message-ID: <20080210235526.GC27075@zhevny.com> The 6th annual Linux Audio Conference is taking place in Cologne, Germany, Feb 28th to March 2nd, 2008. As with each previous year this year's conference will be streamed live over the internet in ogg theora via icecast. The stream server is up at: http://lac2008.khm.de:8000/ There is nothing to see at the moment, but keep checking over the coming days as we hope to have a test stream up soon. This year we are in the unique situation of having a Gigabit link donated by CITIZENMEDIA: http://www.ist-citizenmedia.org/ They have asked us to use up as much of their bandwidth as we can so they can see how well the link performs. This year the core team, Joern Nettingsmeier and myself, are recruiting volunteers to spread the workload. To that end we have set up a mailing list and irc channel to coordinate our efforts. We will also have a wiki shortly. If you will be coming to Cologne for the conference please consider signing up to help. If you are not coming, please enjoy the fruits of our labors by watching the streams and participating via irc. stream team mailing list: http://zhevny.com/mailman/listinfo/lac-streams general conference chat: #lac2008 on irc.freenode.net stream team tech talk: #lac2008-tech on irc.freenode.net Thanks, Eric Rz. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From eric at zhevny.com Mon Feb 11 09:14:31 2008 From: eric at zhevny.com (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:14:31 -0600 Subject: [lac-streams] lac streaming Message-ID: <20080211151431.GX27075@zhevny.com> Hi Thomas, I see you subscribed to the lac streams mailing list. Will you be at the conference and willing to help us out a bit? -Eric Rz. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From nettings at stackingdwarves.net Thu Feb 21 07:54:25 2008 From: nettings at stackingdwarves.net (=?UTF-8?B?SsO2cm4gTmV0dGluZ3NtZWllcg==?=) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:54:25 +0100 Subject: [lac-streams] Streaming TODO List Message-ID: <47BD8291.5060408@stackingdwarves.net> hi guys! since we don't have a wiki yet, here's my current todo list. please expand. * fallback streams * extra disk for master streamer * migrate encoder to debian * check concert streaming permissions * set up ambi encoding * extra bnc cables for aula * camera intercom * meeting with all streaming helpers (not that i've thought about this much yet - i just thought it's nicer than a "THIS IS A TEST" message). j?rn -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From eric at zhevny.com Thu Feb 21 08:30:16 2008 From: eric at zhevny.com (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:30:16 -0600 Subject: [lac-streams] Streaming TODO List In-Reply-To: <47BD8291.5060408@stackingdwarves.net> References: <47BD8291.5060408@stackingdwarves.net> Message-ID: <20080221143016.GX27075@zhevny.com> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 02:54:25PM +0100, J?rn Nettingsmeier wrote: > hi guys! > > since we don't have a wiki yet, here's my current todo list. please expand. > > * fallback streams > * extra disk for master streamer > * migrate encoder to debian > > * check concert streaming permissions > * set up ambi encoding > > * extra bnc cables for aula > * camera intercom > > * meeting with all streaming helpers > > (not that i've thought about this much yet - i just thought it's nicer > than a "THIS IS A TEST" message). > > j?rn Random notes follow, sorry I haven't yet gotten this into a presentable form: Done list: #mail to lists about stream URL and requesting volunteers: # xiph, la*, debconf-video, debian-multimedia, others?, cine? # linux-audio-dev # linux-audio-user # linux-audio-announce # icecast at xiph.org # theora at xiph.org # cinelerra at skolelinux.no # debian-multimedia at lists.debian.org # debconf-video at lists.debconf.org # dclug, novalug, ma-linux @calypso.tux.org #buy tapes and disks #create scripts for putting metadata into talks and cutting TODO list: 2nd mail re: LAC streams/call for volunteers get cell phone sim card mirrored / on lac2008 cmml bot in #lac2008 and -tech __ogg theora stream to icecast DV input stream ___|__ogg theora dump/capture for immediate posting |__dv dump for post-production editing/muxing with cmml Eric in Cologne 22Feb - 4 Mar Martin and Frank are the orga team Joern will be occuppied full time during conference 28 Feb - 2 Mar running concerts. streaming infrastructure will be in place well before conference; servers are opensuse10.3 already in progress 09-02-2008 lac2008.khm.de 87.79.32.155 master stream server public interface lac2008.intern.khm.de 172.17.0.100/22 default gw 172.17.0.1 khm intranet interface encoder machine install complete 09-02-2008, awaiting xiph.org stuff, accesible via lac2008.khm.de will be reinstalled w/debian lenny + etch kernel + sid dvgrab volunteers confirmed: edrz hermanr daven nettings holger ballweg volunteers possible: khm students? Questions asked to lac at linuxaudio.org: What exactly has Joern been asked to do for the concerts? technical director: sound, lighting, stage management and rehearsals. Will Martin/Frank manage the main talk room? yes Will KHM provide audio engineer for talks? yes for settup and Thu, Fri. We handle it from there for Sat, Sun. Do we have any chance of a budget for DV tapes and/or harddisks? ~35hrs x 13GB/hr = ~455GB Eric is bringing 750GB sata disk, 320GB sata disk, usb drive enclosure and 50 miniDV tapes. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From nettings at stackingdwarves.net Sun Feb 24 07:04:46 2008 From: nettings at stackingdwarves.net (=?UTF-8?B?SsO2cm4gTmV0dGluZ3NtZWllcg==?=) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:04:46 +0100 Subject: [lac-streams] a few questions... Message-ID: <47C16B6E.1060104@stackingdwarves.net> hi lutz! (i'm writing in english since i'm cc:ing our stream team.) i know it's sunday, please don't bother to reply until tomorrow - the reason i'm writing now is to get those issues out of my brain... so far, most of the stuff we've tried works. i found all 4 video tie lines from the patch bay behind the speaker's lectern, and they work. we're using only 2 atm. i've gotten the projector to display the laptop vga signal, and the laptop audio gets routed to the front speakers. (neat room control system, btw - like the way it interfaces with all the video switching gear.) here's the stuff i haven't figured out yet: * how does the audio plugbox at the speaker's lectern interface with the audio patchbay upstairs, and finally with the mixer? i've found one mikrophone signal at the mixer, but not the other. how does the mixer connect to the p.a. system? * how to we gently bypass the audio routing of the room control system for the conference without disrupting the standard setup? i would prefer to have all sounds routed via the mixer at all times, not handled by the wireless remote. we'll need the following signals: * speaker's wireless headset * two wireless handhelds for the audience * stereo line in from laptops * another stereo line in for background music during the breaks(optional) * two ambience microphones the ambience mikes should go to the video mixer via direct out, and the pre-fader aux goes to the video mixer as well. main bus should go to the p.a. system? * how do i route an external CV signal to the projector? (i've used the spare ports on the CV patchbay to hook up our stuff, and i'd like to be able to get the program out of our video mixer on the projector, just in case.) * are some CV patchbay ports normalized? * are there some more network ports available that are connected to the campus backbone? currently, we've borrowed the one that used to be connected to the wireless AP, because that was the only one we could find, apart from those at the speaker's lectern. or should i ask bob about this? * do you have beltpack transmitters with lemo connectors? reason i'm asking is i've rented a "naked" headset for shure systems to save money - can we make it work with one of your systems? if now, i'll have to order a complete wireless set. my todo list for monday: * lighting * setup of two ambience mikes, ideally under the ceiling (do you have fixtures?) * microphone and line checks * audio routing * tidy up cable runs and then we should be done. and if you've got some spare time, i'd appreciate a guided tour through your switching system :) plus i'd really like to learn how those huuuge film projectors work - quite impressive. best, j?rn -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From eric at zhevny.com Mon Feb 25 17:18:11 2008 From: eric at zhevny.com (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:18:11 -0600 Subject: [lac-streams] Test stream running Message-ID: <20080225231811.GH27075@zhevny.com> Things are coming together here at KHM. We currently have a live test stream running from the encoding machine we will be using throughout the conference. Currently it just shows a shot of the street facing window in the Aula where LAC talks will take place, so not too exciting, but It should remain up overnight, so please check it. http://lac.linuxaudio.org/?page_id=29 We should be back at work in ~9hours or so. -Eric -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From herman at skolelinux.no Tue Feb 26 08:10:14 2008 From: herman at skolelinux.no (Herman Robak) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:10:14 +0100 Subject: [lac-streams] A cheat list for the camera ops from Herman (camera geek) Message-ID: The Sony cameras in the auditorium have sufficient manual controls for our needs, I'm summarising the dos and don'ts here. The lighting is fairly even so a good compromise setting for colour balance and exposure can be found. We will try to match the colour balance of the cameras exactly in advance. NOTE: There is no quick and convenient way to match the colour balance on the fly, so leave those settings locked, PLEASE (more on that below). NOTE 2: The spotlights in the front will have blue filters to match the "daylight" colour of the projection screen. So the speaker cam will see things that are more "bluish" than the audience. We want both cameras to have a fairly neutral colour balance, so cuts between them don't bring a jarring change in the overall colour. (more on that below) Suggested settings, speaker camera (with spotlights): Shutter speed: 1/25 sec Iris/gain: 2.4/0dB White balance: Balanced manually on the projector screen or a sheet) (spot lights with blue filters, or a gray/white projector image) Img stabilise: OFF auto/man lock: HOLD Focus: Manual, push to focus Suggested settings, audience camera: Shutter speed: 1/25 sec Iris/gain: open/+6dB White balance: Balanced manually on the projector screen (room lighting only, the projector turned off) Img stabilise: OFF auto/man lock: HOLD Focus: Manual, push to focus Do this: Leave the exposure settings locked down. Use the "HOLD" position (lower position, white letters) of the switch in the upper right corner of the left side of the camera. Speaker cam: Set and forget the focus on the speaker manually (tip: use "push focus") once, and leave it. Audience cam: Beware of focus! Either use autofocus or push to focus when appropriate. (if you don't understand "when appropriate", use autofocus ;-) Don't do this: Don't unlock the manual exposure/white balance unless you know how to set it back exactly where it was! Don't set the exposure and white balance to auto. Leave it locked. Don't change the exposure or colour balance just because it looks slightly wrong on the camera monitor. The camera monitor is _not_ a good indicator of colour balance and exposure! The exposure and white balance will be set and locked down in advance. Do not enable the "steadyshot" (image stabiliser) feature. The camera is on a tripod. If you move the camera, you mean it! Stabilisers are intended for handheld operation. DO NOT use the "progressive scan" mode: It outputs 12 frames per second; it's useless, and Sony should be ashamed of it rather than advertise it on the camera body! -- Herman Robak -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From eric at zhevny.com Tue Feb 26 10:33:15 2008 From: eric at zhevny.com (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:33:15 -0600 Subject: [lac-streams] Replacemnt drive? Message-ID: <20080226163315.GI27075@zhevny.com> One of the drives in the encoding/recording box started showing errors last night and continued today. It was causing problems, so we had to remove it. Is there any chance of getting a replacement? It is a 160GB SATA drive. -Eric Rz. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From herman at skolelinux.no Wed Feb 27 09:10:39 2008 From: herman at skolelinux.no (Herman Robak) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:10:39 +0100 Subject: [lac-streams] A cheat list for the camera ops from Herman (camera geek) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: (Revised dos and don'ts) The Sony cameras in the auditorium have sufficient manual controls for our needs, I'm summarising the dos and don'ts here. NOTE: There is no quick and convenient way to match the colour balance on the fly, so leave those settings locked, PLEASE (more on that below). NOTE 2: The spotlights in the front will have blue filters to match the "daylight" colour of the projection screen. So the speaker cam will see things that are more "bluish" than the audience. We want both cameras to have a fairly neutral colour balance, so cuts between them don't bring a jarring change in the overall colour. (more on that below) CHEAT SHEETS: Settings, SPEAKER camera (with spotlights): Shutter speed: 1/25 sec Iris/gain: 2.4/0dB White balance: Balanced manually on the projector screen or a sheet) (spot lights with blue filters, or a gray/white projector image) Img stabilise: OFF auto/man lock: HOLD Focus: Manual, push to focus Settings, AUDIENCE camera: Shutter speed: 1/25 sec Iris/gain: open/+3dB White balance: Balanced manually on the projector screen (room lighting only, the projector turned off) Img stabilise: OFF auto/man lock: HOLD Focus: Manual, push to focus (end cheat sheets) Do this: Leave the exposure settings locked down. Use the "HOLD" position (lower position, white letters) of the switch in the upper right corner of the left side of the camera. SPEAKER cam: Set and forget the focus on the speaker manually (tip: use "push focus") once, and leave it. AUDIENCE cam: Beware of focus! Either use autofocus or push to focus when appropriate. (if you don't understand "when appropriate", use autofocus Don't do this: Don't set the exposure and white balance to auto. Leave it locked! Don't change the exposure or colour balance just because it looks slightly wrong on the camera monitor. The camera monitor is _not_ a good indicator of colour balance and exposure! The exposure and white balance will be set and locked down in advance. Do not enable the "steadyshot" (image stabiliser) feature. The camera is on a tripod. If you move the camera, you mean it! Stabilisers are intended for handheld operation. DO NOT use the "progressive scan" mode: It outputs 12 frames per second; it's useless! -- Herman Robak -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From nettings at stackingdwarves.net Wed Feb 27 11:49:05 2008 From: nettings at stackingdwarves.net (=?UTF-8?B?SsO2cm4gTmV0dGluZ3NtZWllcg==?=) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:49:05 +0100 Subject: [lac-streams] is there another analog video + audio to DV interface? Message-ID: <47C5A291.7040108@stackingdwarves.net> hi everyone! sorry to be getting on everyone's nerves again. the external device lutz gave us died on us again, after half a day of operation. i would really like to have something going by tomorrow morning - i'd be really sad if all our hard work went down the drain just so because there is no working dv encoder anywhere... :( turns out the da-max converters don't do firewire out at all (at least gerrit didn't get back to me yet). in case anyone has an idea: our exact requirements are * video in via CV (tested), S-Video (tested), YUV (should work), SDI (might work) * analog audio stereo in * firewire out (the device needs to look like a DV camera to the computer, we are running linux and cannot install mac or win drivers). if you know anything we might try, please reply with lac-streams at zhevny.com in cc: - i won't be around tomorrow, have to set up the live rig @ stadtgarten. best, j?rn -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From eric at zhevny.com Thu Feb 28 04:36:28 2008 From: eric at zhevny.com (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 04:36:28 -0600 Subject: [lac-streams] LAC 2008: live online Now! Message-ID: <20080228103628.GN27075@zhevny.com> The 6th annual Linux Audio Conference has begun in Cologne, Germany. It runs today through March 2nd, 2008. As with each previous year this year's conference is streamed live over the internet in ogg theora via icecast. The stream status page can be found at: http://lac.linuxaudio.org This year we are in the unique situation of having a Gigabit link donated by CITIZENMEDIA: http://www.ist-citizenmedia.org/ They have asked us to use up as much of their bandwidth as we can so they can see how well the link performs. Please forward this information widely so we can help them out. This year the core team, Joern Nettingsmeier and myself, are recruiting volunteers to spread the workload. To that end we have set up a mailing list and irc channel to coordinate our efforts. If you are here in Cologne for the conference please consider joining us. If you are not coming, please enjoy the fruits of our labors by watching the streams and participating via irc. stream team mailing list: http://zhevny.com/mailman/listinfo/lac-streams general conference chat: #lac2008 on irc.freenode.net stream team tech talk: #lac2008-tech on irc.freenode.net Thanks, LAC streamteam -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie Thu Feb 28 07:58:49 2008 From: Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie (Victor Lazzarini) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:58:49 +0000 Subject: [lac-streams] can I use this list to ask questions? Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.1.20080228135654.0271bc58@popstore.nuim.ie> Hi Can I use this list to ask questions? IRC is not working here where I am behind a firewall. Thanks Victor Victor Lazzarini Music Technology Laboratory Music Department National University of Ireland, Maynooth -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From eric at zhevny.com Thu Feb 28 08:47:07 2008 From: eric at zhevny.com (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:47:07 -0600 Subject: [lac-streams] can I use this list to ask questions? In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.1.20080228135654.0271bc58@popstore.nuim.ie> References: <6.1.2.0.1.20080228135654.0271bc58@popstore.nuim.ie> Message-ID: <20080228144707.GA27075@zhevny.com> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 01:58:49PM +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > Hi > > Can I use this list to ask questions? IRC is not working here > where I am behind a firewall. > Absolutely, Victor. I will try to remember to check it during Q&A sections. -Eric Rz. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie Thu Feb 28 08:50:40 2008 From: Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie (Victor Lazzarini) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:50:40 +0000 Subject: [lac-streams] can I use this list to ask questions? In-Reply-To: <20080228144707.GA27075@zhevny.com> References: <6.1.2.0.1.20080228135654.0271bc58@popstore.nuim.ie> <20080228144707.GA27075@zhevny.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.1.20080228145003.02b8b948@popstore.nuim.ie> Great. The streaming is working beautifully. Thank you so much and to the rest of the team. Victor At 14:47 28/02/2008, you wrote: >On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 01:58:49PM +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > > Hi > > > > Can I use this list to ask questions? IRC is not working here > > where I am behind a firewall. > > > >Absolutely, Victor. > >I will try to remember to check it during Q&A sections. > >-Eric Rz. > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. > >_______________________________________________ >lac-streams mailing list >lac-streams at zhevny.com >http://zhevny.com/mailman/listinfo/lac-streams Victor Lazzarini Music Technology Laboratory Music Department National University of Ireland, Maynooth -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From eric at zhevny.com Thu Feb 28 09:09:43 2008 From: eric at zhevny.com (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:09:43 -0600 Subject: [lac-streams] can I use this list to ask questions? In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.1.20080228145003.02b8b948@popstore.nuim.ie> References: <6.1.2.0.1.20080228135654.0271bc58@popstore.nuim.ie> <20080228144707.GA27075@zhevny.com> <6.1.2.0.1.20080228145003.02b8b948@popstore.nuim.ie> Message-ID: <20080228150943.GB27075@zhevny.com> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 02:50:40PM +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > Great. The streaming is working beautifully. Thank you so much > and to the rest of the team. > > Victor On behalf of us all, you are very welcome. -Eric Rz. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie Thu Feb 28 09:38:11 2008 From: Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie (Victor Lazzarini) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:38:11 +0000 Subject: [lac-streams] question: FTM documentation In-Reply-To: <20080228150943.GB27075@zhevny.com> References: <6.1.2.0.1.20080228135654.0271bc58@popstore.nuim.ie> <20080228144707.GA27075@zhevny.com> <6.1.2.0.1.20080228145003.02b8b948@popstore.nuim.ie> <20080228150943.GB27075@zhevny.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.1.20080228153628.03013ab8@popstore.nuim.ie> What about documentation, is the FTM API well documented? How do we learn about its features? Victor Victor Lazzarini Music Technology Laboratory Music Department National University of Ireland, Maynooth -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From eric at zhevny.com Thu Feb 28 09:50:22 2008 From: eric at zhevny.com (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:50:22 -0600 Subject: [lac-streams] question: FTM documentation In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.1.20080228153628.03013ab8@popstore.nuim.ie> References: <6.1.2.0.1.20080228135654.0271bc58@popstore.nuim.ie> <20080228144707.GA27075@zhevny.com> <6.1.2.0.1.20080228145003.02b8b948@popstore.nuim.ie> <20080228150943.GB27075@zhevny.com> <6.1.2.0.1.20080228153628.03013ab8@popstore.nuim.ie> Message-ID: <20080228155022.GC27075@zhevny.com> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 03:38:11PM +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > What about documentation, is the FTM API well > documented? How do we learn about its features? > > Victor ACK -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From eric at zhevny.com Thu Feb 28 12:33:19 2008 From: eric at zhevny.com (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:33:19 -0600 Subject: [lac-streams] streamteam report day one Message-ID: <20080228183319.GA11796@zhevny.com> Hello, Thank you to the organziers for all your hard work. And thank you to the volunteers who have helped with the streams. :) It's really great to have a larger team this year. Streaming went fairly well today. I'm not sure exactly how many listeners we had as we are relaying locally on the server in order to provide audio only streams. But, I think we had at least 120 viewers at the peak. Ryan is working out from the logs how many unique IPs connected. The team has a few requests for the organizers: Is it still possible that we could get a few students to help us out with camera work? We don't have a lot of people and not everyone can be here for each talk. Can the sound installations in the Aula entrance be shutdown during the talks? The sound is quite disturbing from the projection cabine and it is being heard on the streams causing people to think something has gone wrong. If the stream viewers can hear it, the audience memebers here must also be hearing it. There is some additional information we would like to add to the text on the Streaming page at lac.linuxaudio.org. Is it possible to get access to the wordpress site to update it? Can the person introducing speakers remind questioners (and themselves) to hold the microphone near their mouths when speaking? One fun thing: If we can get a copy of one of the posters to put up on the mixing balcony door, we can show it during breaks. I think that's it for today. I am asking volunteers to be here by 10am tomorrow. I intend to be here at 9am. Thanks everyone, Eric (P.S. is there a secret free food room for volunteers and speakers as at past LACs? failing that, I've been instructed to requst pizza :) ) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From nettings at stackingdwarves.net Thu Feb 28 17:06:23 2008 From: nettings at stackingdwarves.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn_Nettingsmeier?=) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:06:23 +0100 Subject: [lac-streams] can I use this list to ask questions? In-Reply-To: <20080228144707.GA27075@zhevny.com> References: <6.1.2.0.1.20080228135654.0271bc58@popstore.nuim.ie> <20080228144707.GA27075@zhevny.com> Message-ID: <47C73E6F.6040707@stackingdwarves.net> Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 01:58:49PM +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote: >> Hi >> >> Can I use this list to ask questions? IRC is not working here >> where I am behind a firewall. some admins block 6667ff because it's a botnet backchannel for win boxes. many irc services, freenode among them, accept connections on 8000/tcp as well. if this doesn't work either, ssh tunneling is your friend. ssh -L 6669:irc.freenode.net.6669 victor at some.sane.box.without.a.paranoid.firewall.org then point your client at localhost:6669. it might take a while because your ident reply will not happen, but after a timeout you should be in... -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From nettings at stackingdwarves.net Thu Feb 28 17:11:15 2008 From: nettings at stackingdwarves.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn_Nettingsmeier?=) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:11:15 +0100 Subject: [lac-streams] streamteam report day one In-Reply-To: <20080228183319.GA11796@zhevny.com> References: <20080228183319.GA11796@zhevny.com> Message-ID: <47C73F93.7050306@stackingdwarves.net> Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: > Hello, > > Thank you to the organziers for all your hard work. > > And thank you to the volunteers who have helped with the streams. :) > > It's really great to have a larger team this year. > Streaming went fairly well today. I'm not sure exactly how many > listeners we had as we are relaying locally on the server in order to > provide audio only streams. But, I think we had at least 120 viewers at > the peak. Ryan is working out from the logs how many unique IPs > connected. excellent. good to hear all went ok. bummer the uhf headset turned out to be bad - it was the single most expensive piece of equipment i had martin rent for us :( did you have dropouts, or noise? - as i said to edrz during soundcheck, the headset has to be attached very carefully so that it doesn't interact with most speaker's facial hair... (likely to get worse every day.) i'd just like to hear why you ditched it - if it was dropouts, i'm going to complain to ali, because the antennas are a joke. best, j?rn -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie Thu Feb 28 17:12:42 2008 From: Victor.Lazzarini at nuim.ie (victor) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:12:42 +0000 Subject: [lac-streams] can I use this list to ask questions? References: <6.1.2.0.1.20080228135654.0271bc58@popstore.nuim.ie> <20080228144707.GA27075@zhevny.com> <47C73E6F.6040707@stackingdwarves.net> Message-ID: <004601c87a5f$6b94e120$0201a8c0@family> Thanks, I'll try that tomorrow. It's my uni network. I can do most things via socks proxy, but not IRC. It could be the port. Victor ----- Original Message ----- From: "J?rn Nettingsmeier" To: "Linux Audio Conference stream team" Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [lac-streams] can I use this list to ask questions? > Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 01:58:49PM +0000, Victor Lazzarini wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> Can I use this list to ask questions? IRC is not working here >>> where I am behind a firewall. > > some admins block 6667ff because it's a botnet backchannel for win > boxes. many irc services, freenode among them, accept connections on > 8000/tcp as well. > > if this doesn't work either, ssh tunneling is your friend. > > > ssh -L 6669:irc.freenode.net.6669 > victor at some.sane.box.without.a.paranoid.firewall.org > > then point your client at localhost:6669. > > it might take a while because your ident reply will not happen, but > after a timeout you should be in... > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > lac-streams mailing list > lac-streams at zhevny.com > http://zhevny.com/mailman/listinfo/lac-streams -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From eric at zhevny.com Fri Feb 29 05:53:05 2008 From: eric at zhevny.com (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:53:05 -0600 Subject: [lac-streams] streamteam report day one In-Reply-To: <47C73F93.7050306@stackingdwarves.net> References: <20080228183319.GA11796@zhevny.com> <47C73F93.7050306@stackingdwarves.net> Message-ID: <20080229115305.GB15401@zhevny.com> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:11:15AM +0100, J?rn Nettingsmeier wrote: > Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: > > Hello, > > Thank you to the organziers for all your hard work. > > And thank you to the volunteers who have helped with the streams. :) > > It's really great to have a larger team this year. > > Streaming went fairly well today. I'm not sure exactly how many > > listeners we had as we are relaying locally on the server in order to > > provide audio only streams. But, I think we had at least 120 viewers at > > the peak. Ryan is working out from the logs how many unique IPs > > connected. > > excellent. good to hear all went ok. bummer the uhf headset turned out > to be bad - it was the single most expensive piece of equipment i had > martin rent for us :( > did you have dropouts, or noise? - as i said to edrz during soundcheck, > the headset has to be attached very carefully so that it doesn't > interact with most speaker's facial hair... (likely to get worse every day.) Yes. John ffitch just wasn't going to work with that in any way. > i'd just like to hear why you ditched it - if it was dropouts, i'm going > to complain to ali, because the antennas are a joke. The sound quality was just generally poor. The stream listeners were very glad we got rid of it. Daven also hated its sound. No complaints at all today with the akg. -Eric -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From eric at zhevny.com Fri Feb 29 05:56:17 2008 From: eric at zhevny.com (Eric Dantan Rzewnicki) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:56:17 -0600 Subject: [lac-streams] streamteam report day one In-Reply-To: <20080228183319.GA11796@zhevny.com> References: <20080228183319.GA11796@zhevny.com> Message-ID: <20080229115617.GC15401@zhevny.com> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:33:19PM -0600, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: > Hello, > > Thank you to the organziers for all your hard work. > > And thank you to the volunteers who have helped with the streams. :) > > It's really great to have a larger team this year. > Streaming went fairly well today. I'm not sure exactly how many > listeners we had as we are relaying locally on the server in order to > provide audio only streams. But, I think we had at least 120 viewers at > the peak. Ryan is working out from the logs how many unique IPs > connected. Correction of those stats: we actually peaked at 240. The localhost relay on the icecast server only counts as 1 listener. Currently we have 340 viewers. Ryan has written a script to count unique IPs from the logs. At the moment it reports 630. -Eric Rz. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From herman at skolelinux.no Fri Feb 29 07:08:47 2008 From: herman at skolelinux.no (Herman Robak) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:08:47 +0100 Subject: [lac-streams] streamteam report day one In-Reply-To: <20080229115305.GB15401@zhevny.com> References: <20080228183319.GA11796@zhevny.com> <47C73F93.7050306@stackingdwarves.net> <20080229115305.GB15401@zhevny.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:53:05 +0100, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:11:15AM +0100, J?rn Nettingsmeier wrote: ... >> excellent. good to hear all went ok. bummer the uhf headset turned out >> to be bad - it was the single most expensive piece of equipment i had >> martin rent for us :( >> did you have dropouts, or noise? - as i said to edrz during soundcheck, >> the headset has to be attached very carefully so that it doesn't >> interact with most speaker's facial hair... (likely to get worse every >> day.) > > Yes. John ffitch just wasn't going to work with that in any way. > >> i'd just like to hear why you ditched it - if it was dropouts, i'm going >> to complain to ali, because the antennas are a joke. > > The sound quality was just generally poor. The stream listeners were > very glad we got rid of it. Daven also hated its sound. No complaints at > all today with the akg. For what it's worth; I have a Sennheiser wireless lapel mic kit (at my crash space, 2.5km away) which I believe is pretty decent. -- Herman Robak -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From nettings at stackingdwarves.net Fri Feb 29 08:12:18 2008 From: nettings at stackingdwarves.net (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?J=F6rn_Nettingsmeier?=) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:12:18 +0100 Subject: [lac-streams] streamteam report day one In-Reply-To: References: <20080228183319.GA11796@zhevny.com> <47C73F93.7050306@stackingdwarves.net> <20080229115305.GB15401@zhevny.com> Message-ID: <47C812C2.5020101@stackingdwarves.net> Herman Robak wrote: > On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:53:05 +0100, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki > wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:11:15AM +0100, J?rn Nettingsmeier wrote: > ... >>> excellent. good to hear all went ok. bummer the uhf headset turned out >>> to be bad - it was the single most expensive piece of equipment i had >>> martin rent for us :( >>> did you have dropouts, or noise? - as i said to edrz during soundcheck, >>> the headset has to be attached very carefully so that it doesn't >>> interact with most speaker's facial hair... (likely to get worse every >>> day.) >> Yes. John ffitch just wasn't going to work with that in any way. naturally. but he's not exactly a standard use case. >>> i'd just like to hear why you ditched it - if it was dropouts, i'm going >>> to complain to ali, because the antennas are a joke. >> The sound quality was just generally poor. The stream listeners were >> very glad we got rid of it. Daven also hated its sound. No complaints at >> all today with the akg. ok. but i guess some eq could ameliorate that. generally the shure things are very ok. no excuse for not paying the rental fee, i'm afraid :( > For what it's worth; I have a Sennheiser wireless lapel mic kit > (at my crash space, 2.5km away) which I believe is pretty decent. i'd rather not. the pa system is behind the speaker, and with lavaliers this requires constant attention... if the sennheiser is ok, leave it. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From nettings at stackingdwarves.net Fri Feb 29 08:16:44 2008 From: nettings at stackingdwarves.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn_Nettingsmeier?=) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:16:44 +0100 Subject: [lac-streams] [lac-orga] Re: streamteam report day one In-Reply-To: <20080229115617.GC15401@zhevny.com> References: <20080228183319.GA11796@zhevny.com> <20080229115617.GC15401@zhevny.com> Message-ID: <47C813CC.8070800@stackingdwarves.net> Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:33:19PM -0600, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Thank you to the organziers for all your hard work. >> >> And thank you to the volunteers who have helped with the streams. :) >> >> It's really great to have a larger team this year. >> Streaming went fairly well today. I'm not sure exactly how many >> listeners we had as we are relaying locally on the server in order to >> provide audio only streams. But, I think we had at least 120 viewers at >> the peak. Ryan is working out from the logs how many unique IPs >> connected. > > Correction of those stats: we actually peaked at 240. The localhost > relay on the icecast server only counts as 1 listener. > > Currently we have 340 viewers. Ryan has written a script to count unique > IPs from the logs. At the moment it reports 630. ack. i had my doubts about those numbers, but ntop confirms we're averaging at 50Mbit/s. nothing to make the uplink break a sweat, though. is someone going to annouce live bestiality features to slashdot? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.